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Re: Delay in Tour Automatic
« Antwort #15 am: 09. Mai 2021, 20:06:52 »
Hello Per,

Marcus is right that the rule applies to two-way traffic.
In this case you write that HYLin1V is one way traffic.
I think you need to look at the roadway again.
In particular the direction of travel, determines in which order the track busy signals are approached.
I refer to Route 449 , where the track busy indicators are in the correct order. see .png
So the train leaves OCD C7[456] and the next one is c8[457]=>c9[458]=c10[102] .

In the train number display" HYLin1V"  I see clear a another sequence of the OCD indicators.

 c10[102] =>c9[458]=>c8[457].

kind regards

Rupert




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Re: Delay in Tour Automatic
« Antwort #16 am: 09. Mai 2021, 20:23:07 »
Hi Per,

I think Rupert is right regarding this iTND.

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Re: Delay in Tour Automatic
« Antwort #17 am: 09. Mai 2021, 20:40:49 »
Sorry, i don't understand..?

Do you mean the switching-conditions, you mean they are not in correct order?

By the way, the HYLin1V is not used as destination in any routes.

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Re: Delay in Tour Automatic
« Antwort #18 am: 09. Mai 2021, 20:52:44 »
Hi Per,

oh yes you are absolutely right.

I was misleaded by the route Rupert showed here:
https://www.windigipet.de/foren/index.php?topic=83182.msg248648#msg248648

But the signal belonging to 457 is in the north and then your order is right for this TND

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Re: Delay in Tour Automatic
« Antwort #19 am: 09. Mai 2021, 21:16:07 »

Thank you :)

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Re: Delay in Tour Automatic
« Antwort #20 am: 23. Oktober 2021, 09:08:13 »
Hello!

After a long pause in programming, I am back :)

Could it be that the PC has in-sufficient memory?  I have 4 Gb memory in this PC.  The specs for WDP recommends 2 Gb (with a minimum of 1Gb).

What else may be causing the big delays? 
My layout works very well, all routes and others perform very nicely.  So I do not want to change too much without knowing if there should be an improvement.

Should I reduce the number of routes (I have 673 routes in the editor) ?
Should I reduce the number of tours (I have 47 tours in the editor) ?
Should I reduce the number of profiles (I have 345 profiles in the editor) ?
Should I reduce the number of dispatchers (I have 224 dispatchers in the editor) ?
Should I reduce the number of lines in the Tour-Automatic_Editor (I have 415 lines, including blank lines, in the editor) ?

I have run the "Check for errors for several editors/databases" and there are no errors, just 9 non-important warnings.

I want to keep as much as possible of my setup, but also want to reduce those very long (sometimes several minutes) delays when all trains are stopped. 

Any help/hints are greatly appreciated :)

Best regards,
Per.

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Re: Delay in Tour Automatic
« Antwort #21 am: 24. Oktober 2021, 11:12:37 »
Since Windows 7, I have always used a minimum of 8Gb of RAM. The performance difference of Windows between 4Gb and 8Gb is very noticeable.  I can't comment on its impact on WinDigiPet as I have always used 8Gb of ram on the WDP PCs (except maybe when I was running version 8 a very very long time ago)
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Re: Delay in Tour Automatic
« Antwort #22 am: 24. Oktober 2021, 12:09:03 »
Thank you, Adrian.

I will see if I can upgrade the PC to 8Gb.  RAM is quite expensive today....

Best regards,
Per.

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Re: Delay in Tour Automatic
« Antwort #23 am: 09. November 2021, 09:38:27 »
Hello again.

I have ordered more RAM, will upgrade to 8Gb.

Any other suggestions to what I can do to shorten the very long pauses?

Regards,
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Re: Delay in Tour Automatic
« Antwort #24 am: 17. November 2021, 20:20:05 »
Hello.

I installed the new RAM, 8Gb, today.  It made no difference for the long pauses.

So there must be something wrong with my layout.  Too many files?

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Re: Delay in Tour Automatic
« Antwort #25 am: 18. November 2021, 23:25:14 »
Did you notice any difference outside of WinDigitPet after you installed the extra memory?
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Re: Delay in Tour Automatic
« Antwort #26 am: 19. November 2021, 08:11:56 »
Hi!

No, I use this PC only for WDP :)  So I do not know.  Sorry....

Regards,
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Re: Delay in Tour Automatic
« Antwort #27 am: 20. November 2021, 21:29:10 »
hello Per,
Still working on getting the speed up.  :)

Try to get the layout as compact as possible.
Each empty cell consumes processing power and uses memory.
 I see a lot of layouts that are an exact reproduction of the layout on the screen, where the number of empty cells is larger than the cells with a rail, signal or other element.
Try a horizontal projection with a jump marker at the end.

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Re: Delay in Tour Automatic
« Antwort #28 am: 21. November 2021, 07:25:28 »
Hello Rupert.

Thank you for your advice.  I think my layout on screen can not be compacted much more.  If so, I will probably loose the oversight. 

Thanks anyways!

Regards,
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Re: Delay in Tour Automatic
« Antwort #29 am: 25. November 2021, 21:50:11 »
Hello again.

In my search for speed ( :) ) I have one question:
In Tour Automatic Editor, is there a way to make kind of sub-routines, that will only be executed if one certain condition is true? 
I mean, if this condition is true in, say, line 100, 50 specific lines will be executed.  But if the condition is false, they are all skipped, and not read at all, is this possible?

I have not found this, maybe it is there?

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