Autor Thema: Windigipet and Märklin 60vac-170vac issues.  (Gelesen 219 mal)

Offline dconner

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Windigipet and Märklin 60vac-170vac issues.
« am: 06. September 2022, 20:24:09 »
             Hallo Adrian,
             As you can see I`ve taken your advice and started a new forum post, thanks. Please allow me to restate in a little more detail my original observations and questions to Mathew.
             System information- Windigipet 2021.0b
                                              Märklin CS3 with C Track
                                              DR 5000 LocoNet, linked to FB modules.
                                              PC running Windows 10
                                              Four Märklin boosters

             Mathew made an interesting point about Humidity with his reply to Thor, who was seeking advice about starting a model railway hobby. One part of that advice is as follows:-
             "Humidity does strange things to material that can absorb moisture and change to overall operating characteristics of a model layout"
              The reason for my interest is as follows-
              Two very talented friends in Berlin have developed amongst other things, a new track feedback module of which I have 20, 16 of which are now installed. They replaced the S88 modules from Märklin. Since then I have been expiriencing stability problems as illustrated in the new Windigipet FB icon. A great software addition I might add. Isopropanol and wheel set cleaning have only marginaly helped. Which now brings me to this HUMIDITY point, is this in any way the cause of this instabilty observation? In Widigipet the FB software does offer a way to change this samplig rate but does not help this particular issue, or am I missing something?
              Which brings me to this 60vac-170vac issue. On various occasions I have measured anything from 60vac to 170vac between B (bahnstrom positive) and earth, and the same between 0 (negative) and earth. I have also mesured this same issue on two other sites in Berlin. I have the impression that humidity and track trafic also have a bearing on this issue, even though 18 vac is always constant between B & 0. My request to Märklin for clarifiction with this issue did not result in any way with a sensible answer.
               The link - https://www.marklin-users.net/forum/posts/t39435-Electrical-shock-from-rails, that you kindly sent me makes no mention of a humidity issue, which has made me a little more unsure of my idea.
               The question is does this 60vac / 170vac have an adverse effect on various electronics and can we better monitor this in Windigipet?
               Many thanks for your input, with best regards, Dave Conner, Berlin.
               ps, does this F111 icon on your header have a deeper significance?
« Letzte Änderung: 07. September 2022, 09:48:41 von dconner »
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Offline Adrian L

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Re: Windigipet and Märklin 60vac-170vac issues.
« Antwort #1 am: 07. September 2022, 00:53:13 »
Hello Dave,

I am not an Electronics Engineer, but my guess is that the low current means that the impact to other electronics is minimal.  It is doubtful that WinDigipet would be able to detect such a voltage, but these guys are so talented it would not surprise me to see it added as a future feature.

If humidity is a factor, then it would have to affect the Y capacitor that is mentioned toward the end of the post. As a note, where Lasse lives the humidity can get to 80% in summer and lower in winter. 

You can always join the marklin-users.net forum and make contact with Lasse.  He would like to hear from someone else who has been though the process.

As to the logo, it has no deeper meaning.  It was taken at an airshow in Australia a couple of decades ago. When I asked a former RAAF friend of mine why an aircraft needed such a device,  His comment was, "when we run out of bombs and bullets, we fly very low and barbecue the nasty *****".    ;)

Take care,
Adrian
« Letzte Änderung: 07. September 2022, 00:54:49 von Adrian L »
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Re: Windigipet and Märklin 60vac-170vac issues.
« Antwort #2 am: 07. September 2022, 09:30:21 »
Sorry I got your name mispelled Adrian, letter recognition and spellling was never my strongest point and of course many thanks for your informative reply.
               Best Regards.
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