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Win-Digipet - international => Win-Digipet Forum English => Thema gestartet von: Per Olsen in 25. Dezember 2007, 12:56:19

Titel: Norwegian characters (æøåÆØÅ) not allowed in ProX routes!!
Beitrag von: Per Olsen in 25. Dezember 2007, 12:56:19
Hello.

I finally installed the German version ProX.3 and am now starting to configure it.  I would normally prefer the English version (as german is not a very good language for me, sorry), but have used the last german versions as they are released sooner, and are also "originals".

But this time, I have a problem.  In all text-fields, I am used to using Norwegian text, including the Norwegian special letters æøåÆØÅ.  This has never been a problem, neither in WinDigipet or in any other software for at least the last 10 years.  But in this last version of WinDigipet, they cannot be used in Routes Description.  This is not good, as I use ONLY Norwegian language there, so I have to be able to use norwegian characters.  I do not like to have to go back to the (bad) old days, and use:
ae for æ
oe for ø
å for å
Ae for Æ
Oe for Ø
Aa for Å
It is not so difficult to allow ALL languages special characters (not only the Norwegian ones).  They were allowed in last version, and should still be allowed.  Much more user-friendly!

Any comments?

Best regards,
Merry Christmas !

Per,
Bergen,
Norway.

Hello again.  I just checked with some of the special GERMAN characters, like "ü", and they are working.  So it should be a good thing to re-install the use of norwegian letters!

Regards,
Per.
Titel: Re: Norwegian characters (æøåÆØÅ) not allowed in ProX routes!!
Beitrag von: Nils Gullhav in 26. Dezember 2007, 09:25:44


Good morning Per.
I have only English demo Pro.X.3 Demo still.
But there is the Norwegian øæå ok to write in rote editor, descriptions and id text.


Hilsen Nils  :)
Titel: Re: Norwegian characters (æøåÆØÅ) not allowed in ProX routes!!
Beitrag von: Per Olsen in 26. Dezember 2007, 14:41:37
Hello Nils!

(I answer in English language, as this is an english-speaking forum, normally we would write in norwegian language, as we both are norwegians.  Just for info to others...).

I just tried both the english and the german ProX.3 Demo versions, and the characters are not allowed in any of them.  Look at the enclosed screen-shot.

Please try again, Nils, and let me know?

Merry Christmas !

Per, Bergen.

Titel: Re: Norwegian characters (æøåÆØÅ) not allowed in ProX routes!!
Beitrag von: Peter Ploch in 26. Dezember 2007, 15:25:20
Hello Per,

It seems, this is a Windows-Systems-Problem and not a WDP one. Please look at the sets for countries; I think there is the solution. Good luck.
Titel: Re: Norwegian characters (æøåÆØÅ) not allowed in ProX routes!!
Beitrag von: Per Olsen in 26. Dezember 2007, 16:21:57
Hello !

Thank you, I will try to check.  But Dr. Peterlin told me this:
"sorry , there is no way to fix it. You have to re-write all routes  !"

So I assume that there IS a change in the software,

I will try to install on another PC with English version of the operating system.

Regards,
Per.


Titel: Re: Norwegian characters (æøåÆØÅ) not allowed in ProX routes!!
Beitrag von: Per Olsen in 26. Dezember 2007, 16:38:12
Hello again.

I now tried to install ProX English and German verions (X3 Demo) on another PC running english Windows XP SP2.  Same problem there.

Comments?

Per
Titel: Re: Norwegian characters (æøåÆØÅ) not allowed in ProX routes!!
Beitrag von: Nils Gullhav in 26. Dezember 2007, 17:03:01
I did install the demo today.
And tested it just after.
But I didn't have a old WD on this computer before. (laptop)
I run my layouts with other computers.
I hope I receive a full pro x 3 in the first week in January ??? :) (I have asked nice :))

Best regard from Nils
Titel: Re: Norwegian characters (æøåÆØÅ) not allowed in ProX routes!!
Beitrag von: Per Olsen in 26. Dezember 2007, 17:08:38
OK.

I tried every PC in this house, and they all work the same.  The letters are not allowed.  When I write a new text, and press ENTER to save the text, the warning appears, and the letters are removed. 

Per.
Titel: Re: Norwegian characters (æøåÆØÅ) not allowed in ProX routes!!
Beitrag von: Nils Gullhav in 26. Dezember 2007, 23:37:04
Hei Per

We can take it local her: http://www.norskmjforum.no/forum/default.asp?CAT_ID=13
And tell it later her.

Best regard from Nils
Titel: Re: Norwegian characters (æøåÆØÅ) not allowed in ProX routes!!
Beitrag von: Per Olsen in 27. Dezember 2007, 09:41:19
Hi Nils.

OK, will do.  See in that forum, that you got the problem, too.  So it is not only me, smile!

Per.
Titel: Re: Norwegian characters (æøåÆØÅ) not allowed in ProX routes!!
Beitrag von: Nils Gullhav in 01. Januar 2008, 12:20:44

I coudn't write øæå more than the first time.
I did try to change the word with æøå, and then I didn't get allowed to do it more.
But still in ID.text do I have æøå in the description. Computer is funny. ???

I did test it on a other computer yesterday, and get the same result so Per.

But we need ÆØÅ in Norwegian writing.
It will be for us the same to take away W in English writing...

Best Regard from Nils :)
Titel: Re: Norwegian characters (æøåÆØÅ) not allowed in ProX routes!!
Beitrag von: Steppen in 04. Januar 2008, 11:03:07
Per says that Mr. Peterlin has told him that this is a deliberate change and that it cannot/will not be reversed. Is there any way that Mr. Peterlin could explain more in detail why it's changed, what the changes are and why it can't be changed back?

As earlier stated this is a major drawback for the Scandinavian users (partly exept the Swedes, as the use the "umlaut"; in ä and ö), and will probably cause people to look for another program.

Thanks!
Titel: Re: Norwegian characters (æøåÆØÅ) not allowed in ProX routes!!
Beitrag von: Per Olsen in 04. Januar 2008, 16:31:54
Hi again.

Peterlin said:"sorry , there is no way to fix it. You have to re-write all routes  !"

Of course there is a way to fix it.  The only question is if they are willing to take the time and effort to do so.  I agree with Nils, we really DO need to be able to use our language in comment-lines etc. 

I have returned the old version 9, where this was not a problem, so I cannot go back  :) 

The version X seems very nice.  I am almost through reading all docs, and I am very impressed with many of the new features.  Only BIG disappointment, is the æøåÆØÅ-problem.  So far...

Regards,
Per.

Titel: Re: Norwegian characters (æøåÆØÅ) not allowed in ProX routes!!
Beitrag von: Peterlin in 11. Januar 2008, 11:08:07
Hi together.

we allow now in our beta version the special letters for Norway again !

But earliest in one of the next updates you can use it.

best regards
Titel: Re: Norwegian characters (æøåÆØÅ) not allowed in ProX routes!!
Beitrag von: Nils Gullhav in 11. Januar 2008, 17:49:22
Thanks  :)


Nils  :)
Titel: Re: Norwegian characters (æøåÆØÅ) not allowed in ProX routes!!
Beitrag von: Per Olsen in 11. Januar 2008, 19:48:01
Hello !

Thank you very much !  I really appreciate this !

I have been working a lot with (German) ProX.3 the last weeks, and I am very happy.  Especially all the excellent new tools for writing Fahrstrassen and Zugfahrten.  Very good !

Thank you again !

Per.
Titel: Re: Norwegian characters (æøåÆØÅ) not allowed in ProX routes!!
Beitrag von: Steppen in 13. Januar 2008, 00:01:18
Thank you!  :D
Titel: Re: Norwegian characters (æøåÆØÅ) not allowed in ProX routes!!
Beitrag von: Peterlin in 07. Februar 2008, 18:04:41
Hi together,

as a special gift for my norwegian users :

We allow now in the version Pro X.3 B the special letters for Norway again !

Nothing else was changed !
We only want to present with this version a new copy protection !!

best regards

Titel: Re: Norwegian characters (æøåÆØÅ) not allowed in ProX routes!!
Beitrag von: Tom Blikstad in 07. Februar 2008, 20:21:05
Hello Mr. Peterlin, thank you!

I have brought the news to the norwegian forum.
Titel: Re: Norwegian characters (æøåÆØÅ) not allowed in ProX routes!!
Beitrag von: Per Olsen in 07. Februar 2008, 20:32:33
Hello !

Thank you, Dr. Peterlin!

I have installed the X3b, but I have some problems.  I downloaded it (I found only 1 version, so I assume it is the German version).  And as I use the German X3 myself, I tried to install it, but a warning said I had to un-install the present X3.  So I did, and next installed the X3b.  But it says version 10.3.125, and norwegian characters do not work (like before).

Did I do something wrong, or is there a problem with the X3b?

Per.