See my movie
Delivery of wagons to a stubline is controlled by a profile in my system and works very well.
but how to manage to drive the locomotive back to pick up wagons when the block is busy
Anyone done that? Any tips?

HI, that is often the problem with the single detector policy and axle detection.
I have not equipped my carriages with axle detection, so the sidings are occupied because the name of the train is present, but the current detection detector is inactive.
So when the detector becomes active because the locomotive wants to pick up the carriages, WDP knows the position of the locomotive and can stop it at the buffers of the train to be picked up.

https://youtu.be/ZQTnaXR6dvY

It is better to install a second very short detector, which can be a current detector.  Or a so-called reflex light sensor, such as the Zimo SN1D.

However, a Hall sensor or reed contact can also do the job.

Thanks for your support

It still not works, I believe something in my setup is wrong
Image 1= situation: Lok stay at block 27, block 7 (short) is free and block 46 is occupied by a wagon
Image 2= My VHD setup
Image 3= My Route <Switch-condition> setup

But the lok deny to start, only if wagon at block 46 is removed the lok will start
software version=2021.2.25-32

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Kjell Ivar

Hello Kjell,
There are only two normal ways to be allowed to enter an already occupied track.
One is the coupling route and the other is when a locomotive must be on the storage track for a specific reason.

It appears that the route that is used is NOT a coupling route.

In other words, WDP does not cooperate with this unsafe driving instruction.
This means that a component for the MIFAZ must be activated. 
See red box.
This will then lift the blockage.
Do not forget to indicate the stopping distance where the locomotive in front of the train must stop.
Please note that this is not a coupling route where the locomotive and the train present are joined together(from a software perspective).


All the best
Rupert

Hello
Rubert

Sorry, the lok still not start, when 46 is occupied
setup, see my images
image 13 indicate that tour is activated by software, but lok do not start up

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Kjell Ivar

I see that there is no train (name) in the destination track.
I do see that the occupancy detector is on.
But WDP does not see a train with a name on that location  .
How on earth can WDP make a locomotive stop for a train if it does not know which train it is,  and what position  that train occupies on the destination track?.

A train consists of at least one carriage or one locomotive.

So give a name to that carriage on that track  with a  position and drive direction ( What is front or Back of the train.

Hopefully, this document will provide some clarification.

Hello
Rubert

Thanks for your clarification and "Tips and tricks" document.
When I put a loc on block 46, a message regarding "position storage" occur image 22, I added "something" in tour editor image 23. I believe all answers are in your document and I will study that.

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Kjell Ivar

Your current findings confirm my comments. This document was written for the previous WDP versions. Markus put a great deal of time into perfecting it down to the last detail in WDP 2025. However, the essence of what Jurgen Grabner wrote remains unchanged.
However, bear in mind that with a single-occupancy detector, restrictions may apply. Given what is already occupied, it cannot be occupied a second time. Therefore, a very short detector or light reflex sensor, Hall sensor or reed contact can have a very positive effect on the correct stopping at the buffer of the trains to be coupled.
 
https://youtu.be/ZQTnaXR6dvY

https://youtu.be/KHymMe2sdk4


RGS

Rupert

Hello
Robert

Try to read the document, but it is hard for me to understand everything
I now get message "position storage" not activated for vehicle...
What menu for setup of vehicle position?
I appreciate your support, my knowledge of this huge software is still limited
What about a Anydesk or Teamviewer connection to create needed procedures in my system?
If agree send a mail to: kiv@vftronic.no

enclosed 2 images, but a believe that I m in the fog

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Kjell ivar

Hello Kjell,
Windigipet has a learning curve because it has many control elements that cannot be accessed in other operating systems or can only be accessed through complicated actions.
A shunting movement may seem easy at first glance, but it is difficult for the software.  Windigipet assumes the most likely position.
Distance traveled = Time x M/sec.
In this  calculation, the time measurement is the absolute value. The other value, meters per second, is also accurate, but is  actually an empirical value.
In short, occupancy detectors are certainly important where shunting is to take place. They are the eyes of the software. For a train movement with a stop along the platform, this is less critical than a stop at the buffer of another train.
 
We are waiting for the locomotive decoder that can perform a Doppler Shift measurement using three basic transmitters in the 9 Giga Hz range on your model railway.
I think it would be better if you uploaded your track plan to the forum. (forum mode)

Hello Rupert

Thanks for the answer, I am including a backup of my current system.
In my youth I had a simple train system, and now continue this hobby as retired. I started about +2 years ago and constructed a system where it is possible to run up to 7 locomotives simultaneously. (But several hours of trial, failure, testing and testing was needed). One of my hugest problems was the S88 unit and false phantom signals when it communicated directly with CS3+, after a while CS3+ for S88 was replaced by HSI-S88-USB and YES this problem was suddenly solved. Software Traincontroller was also considered, but in the end Windigipet was selected as my train-software. I also plan to upgrade to the last version of the software.

With all the experience and my learning I now plan to build a new and larger system, where there will be 12 stub lines with options for picking up and delivering wagons and trains.
My question then:
3 blocks on each, a short one at the start, a long middle section and a short one at the end, will that give me full flexibility to control traffic in and out by Windigipet?

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Kjell Ivar